Saturday, May 31, 2014

What's best practice? Insights from the AVA conference, days 3&4

Brush tail Bettong
Another pic of the brush-tail bettong at the conference...just because its a whole lot cuter than photos of people speaking behind lecterns. 
Blogging a five-day conference turns out to be a huge challenge when you are attending it at the same time. So we’ve been a little slow – mostly because we’ve been busy attending every possible breakfast session, lunchtime lecture, plenary, special-interest-group dinner and mini-lecture possible. And still we missed a few! (There were eight concurrent streams and over 200 sessions to choose from during the week).

For me there were two stand-out sessions in the last two days that I’d like to single out.

Martin Whiting discussed business and veterinary clinical autonomy. He noted, particularly with reference to the UK but it is also happening in Australia, the growth of veterinary practice franchises or chains. There are of course big benefits of standardising veterinary care – centralised services, bulk-buying and cost-savings for clients, sharing of high-value, short-life products such as blood products between practices, standardised employee training and education, centralised after hours services, better working conditions and so forth.

But there are some very clear disadvantages, depending on the way these are run. What happens when you are treating a patient and the standard operating protocol dictates that you need to work it up in a particular way and you disagree? What if bulk purchased medicines or foods are not the optimal treatment in a particular case? Some practices incentivise vets to sell particular products, or force veterinarians to refer to a particular service. Many pay on a commission-basis or give bonuses for invoicing over certain thresholds. These business practices have serious consequences for vets and patients.

Commission-based remuneration in health care can lead to abuse and generate distrust between the client and clinician. Clients may be unsure if the recommendation is being made for commercial reasons or in the best interests of their pet. Individual veterinarians must always abide by the professional code of conduct, which trumps private practice policy in the event of a disciplinary hearing. Dr Whiting made some excellent observations and the presentation generated a lot of discussion. This potential conflict between practice protocols and clinical autonomy has huge ethical implications and is something that the profession needs to address.

Dr Ilana Mendels from VetPrac won a prize for visiting the AVA's Wellness Stand. Ilana is always well coordinated but note that her glasses, lanyard and shirt are totally coordinated with the prize. Seriously, do us mere mortals stand a chance?
Meantime when it comes to communicating costs in veterinary care, Ontario Veterinary College’s AssociateProfessor Jason Coe had some fascinating data to share. A lot of veterinarians feel awkward talking about money. Some perceived it made them look like they were money-focused, some felt that their job was just to worry about the animal and let reception discuss costs with clients. Dr Coe has done some great work. The upshot is that upfront communication about costs improves clinical outcomes.

When he asked how many vets enjoyed talking to clients about money, 45 per cent disagreed and 28 per cent strongly disagreed. That’s a pretty clear majority.

But time and again, studies have shown that client satisfaction is increased when the client understands the costs involved and why these are incurred.

Vets get a bit defensive. In a study Dr Coe ran, he found that vets often justified costs in terms of their investment in time, overheads, the skillset required etc.

What the clients wanted to know was what the costs meant in terms of their pet. For example, this operation will give Rusty X chance of cure or 6 months additional survival, relieve pain and allow you to manage him without medication…etc. The time taken, the equipment needed etc. weren’t so relevant.

Veterinarians said they felt undervalued or guilty when talking about money which made them a bit gun shy. But pet owners felt that a failure to discuss costs upfront could lead to clients being over-extended financially. One point of discussion was the client who comes in and says “costs are irrelevant”.

This actually means different things to different people and often these clients challenge the bill when they finally see it. So it is important to discuss costs even if the client says that costs do not matter. Knowing what to expect does matter.

In one overseas study, almost 50 per cent of veterinary clients left the consult room without an idea of what costs they would be up for. In another study by Coe, Adams and Bonnett (JAVMA 2009 234:1418-1424) of 200 veterinary consults, only 29 per cent of visits included a discussion of costs, and 25 per cent of vets never initiated cost discussions.

Dr Coe discussed the different ways that veterinarians might initiate cost discussions in an emotionally charged environment. The use of empathy ranked very highly. Interestingly in an Australian study by McArthur and Fitzgerald AVJ 2013:91:374-380), veterinarians expressed empathy in only 41 per cent of consults – and 73 per cent of those occasions involved directing empathy at the animal. Which is fine – except only the empathy statements directed at the client had any impact on client satisfaction.

Dr Coe talked about the use of partnership statements and “I wish…” statements to express our concerns in a way that is meaningful to clients (for further info see Hardee, Platt & Kasper J Gen Intern Med 2005, 20:666-669). You can think empathic and helpful thoughts all you like, but if you don’t express these to the client they won’t have an impact on client satisfaction. 

And client satisfaction is a variable that has a huge impact on client uptake of recommendations and therefore clinical outcomes. We know why we are making a recommendation, but as a profession we need to improve our communication. The client wants to know why we are making this recommendation to Phil, or Rory, or Cliff (insert favourite pet name here).


However you feel about money, Dr Coe’s data showed overwhelmingly that upfront discussions about costs were helpful to clients, allowed them to plan better and improved their relationship with the veterinary team. 

Friday, May 30, 2014

Learning how to be a surgeon: interview with specialist surgeon Dr Charles Kuntz

Dr Charles Kuntz, from Southpaws Specialty Surgery for Animals, in the office.
Dr Charles Kuntz gave such a great talk on Monday at the AVA conference, that SAT had to interview him. What I found particularly interesting as a general practitioner was learning how a great surgeon develops and hones their skills. 

Can you tell us about your day job?
I am a specialist veterinary surgeon. I try to improve the quality of life in pets and their owners when they present to me with serious (generally surgical) conditions. I have been a specialist veterinary surgeon for 18 years. I started and currently run a “boutique” veterinary referral practice which is growing by the day. My responsibilities are clinical, teaching, marketing and management. I love what I do and can’t imagine doing anything else.

What kinds of surgeries do you perform now and why are they challenging?
I perform nearly any kind of veterinary surgery. Really the only thing I don’t personally do is joint replacement. I leave that to my business partner and associate Dr. James Simcock. I do a lot of cancer surgery which means removal of large tumours. I have sub specialist training in surgical oncology and am an ACVS Founding Fellow in Surgical Oncology. 

I also really enjoy neurosurgery.  This includes removal of brain tumours, decompression of the spinal cord due to disc ruptures, decompression of nerve roots due to lumbosacral disease (which is like sciatica in people) and correction of congenital brain abnormalities. I find neurosurgery particularly enjoyable because it is very technical and requires a lot of concentration. Also, the results are usually great which is rewarding. 

I do a lot of orthopaedic surgery for ligament injuries in the shoulder and knee. I also do surgery for developmental diseases of elbows and hips. We don’t do much trauma surgery because of the good leash laws in Australia. 

I also really enjoy soft tissue surgery for urinary tract, respiratory and intestinal problems. Again, they are fairly technical and require a good knowledge of anatomy. If I could design my perfect surgery day, it would include a brain tumour removal, a lung tumour removal, a disc rupture, a shoulder ligament replacement and an adrenal tumour removal.  [Ed: My perfect surgery day would be WATCHING that!]

Dr Kuntz: good trainers keep training.
Were you always good at surgery? Did you always do something with your hands?
I was pretty good at surgery in veterinary school. I always found the technical part of surgery pretty straight-forward. The challenge for me has been learning the perioperative care - learning when to cut, how to minimise suffering before and after surgery and how to maximise the outcomes with good patient care. 

I have always done stuff with my hands. Early on, aged 10-14 it was taking apart radios and things, 18+ it was playing guitar and I have always enjoyed woodworking although I have been banned by my wife due to a stupid and pretty serious injury which occurred about 18 months ago. I was using a very sharp chisel and cut three tendons, two nerves, two muscles and an artery in my left hand. I had three hours of microsurgery and was operating again (against doctor’s orders) 48 hours later. I was what was called a “very motivated patient” with respect to physiotherapy and have had an excellent recovery with no residual deficits. 

How does someone become an expert in surgery? 
The most effective way to become an expert in surgery is to do an internship, surgical residency and specialisation. A residency is a 4-5 year program which involves extensive training, supervision and examination under the guidance of other established surgical specialists. During my residency, I experienced long hours and performed about 1,000 surgeries. 

I read thousands of articles and about a dozen surgical textbooks, on which I had intensive examination. I also did a Master’s degree at the same time and published several articles. Even with all that training, I was most certainly not an expert when I was finished (although I thought I was). In the 18 years since the completion of my specialisation, I have continued to learn actively every day by observing other surgeons on youtube and in human hospitals, intensively reading the literature, continuing to publish and developing new techniques. 

One of the best things I have done to develop my skill has been supervising surgical residents. I have mentored two residents through their programs from veterinary school all the way through specialisation and currently have two more in different stages of their programs. Having residents around forces me to be consistent and honest in my approach to surgery. It also forces me to keep up with the relevant veterinary literature and to justify my decisions. 

That being said, I know of lots of great surgeons who have not done surgical residencies. It is much more difficult because the training has to be more self-directed and self-motivated. Resources can be hard to find and it can be challenging to go home and read for three hours after a big day in the clinic if no one is forcing you to do it. Continuing education is great in the form of attending lectures and reading articles and textbooks. Also, one must be completely honest with one’s self about successes and failures in order to improve. I had a mentor who said that no matter how well a surgery went, you should be able to pick three things you could have done better. You should never settle for “good enough.”

Why is it important to do things differently when you can? 
It is always important to constantly question what you are doing and to never settle for status quo. I am always challenging myself to improve my technique. I never accept that the current way of doing something is necessarily the best way. I try to keep up with the veterinary literature and always question if there might be a better way. 

What continuing education/training do you do?
The most rewarding continuing education I do is training surgical residents. I have been really lucky with the residents I currently have in that they are really hard-working, clever and technically gifted. They are also really great people to be around. We always have a laugh at work. I also try to foster an atmosphere where they can challenge me and are welcome to question my decision making. They do not accept “Because that is the way we have always done it” as an answer. 

We also have interns which are graduate veterinarians who are hoping to specialise in some discipline. They are usually with us for a year. We have been really lucky in getting our interns placed in residency programs. I am an academic associate with several veterinary schools and frequently have veterinary students at our practice. It is really exciting to have these young and enthusiastic people around who are looking for guidance in their careers. I especially enjoy recognising that “spark” in a few of our students that suggests that they are going to be the leaders in veterinary medicine in the future. 

I lecture frequently locally, nationally and internationally and find this aspect of continuing education enjoyable. I try to make my lectures practical and fun, and try to inspire people to be the best vets that they can be. I also do newsletters monthly which are both educational and provide marketing for our practice. I also do continuing education every day with our referring vets. I try to make cases a learning experience for them in hopes that they can carry some of the information that they learn from the case at hand onto their future patients. 

I also actively teach nurses and encourage them to ask me questions in surgery and in the treatment room. It is important that they understand the decisions we make. Again, “Because that is the way we have always done it” is not an acceptable answer to their questions. I have a very active youtube channel with around 90 videos. We have had around 200,000 views from 183 countries. It is rewarding to me to have vets in developing countries watching and learning from our videos in an attempt to provide options for their clients when referral is not an available. 

You recently incorporated a 3D printer intp your practice – how do you use it? 
I love technology. I incorporate new technology into my practice any way I can. One of our latest acquisitions has been a very high-quality 3d printer which was partially supported by a grant from Royal Canin. With it, we can easily print plastic bones of patients which have been scanned on our CT scanner. We can use these bones to practice a surgical procedure (like fracture repair, tumour removal or repair of a congenital bone abnormality) on a patient prior to the actual surgery, pre-contour plates, better explain a disease to clients and referring vets and use as a marketing tool.

What resources can you point readers to?
Veterinary Information Network is a great resource for vets who may feel isolated in private practice. It is a subscription-based service which allows searching of forums on discussions in numerous different fields (like neurology, orthopaedic surgery and soft tissue surgery). If you are feeling brave you can post your own questions and have several responses within 24 hours from experts in the field. There are also proceedings from conferences and access to abstracts from veterinary publications. 

We have the SouthpawsVet youtube channel which has around 90 videos of different surgical procedures [Ed: I am watching these as soon as I get home from AVA!]. There are also thousands of human surgical videos on youtube which may provide some ideas for treatment options. Specialists are also a great resource because we are expected to keep up with our area of expertise. 

We welcome questions from primary care vets whether they are about potential referrals or about general knowledge. I also read medical history books and biographies because they inspire me to advance my abilities and sometimes give me ideas on how I can better treat my patients.

Are there any non-humans in your life and what have they taught you? 
We have two very silly male black Labradors. They live for the moment, love unconditionally, are not embarrassed about being really excited and are extremely loyal. They don’t stress about the future and don’t seem to worry about the past. I really admire those qualities about them.

Thank you Dr Kuntz for taking time out of your schedule! We're truly inspired.

Wednesday, May 28, 2014

AVA Conference - Day Two


This little woylie (aka Brush-tailed bettong) was at the AVA stand at lunchtime. I've never seen one of these fellas before but he was extremely cute. In this photo he is grooming.
For those readers who just tuned in, this week SAT is blogging from the Australian Veterinary Association 2014 conference, this year themed around the very important question “what’s best practice?” And okay, we're really in the midst of day three but attending eight hours of lectures plus checking out all of the new technology and meeting colleagues from interstate is seriously time consuming, hence the late blogging. Everytime I sit down in a quiet corner during a break to blog I run into someone totally awesome.

Day two of the program was just as intense as day one – starting with a breakfast talk on feline obesity by Professor Jacquie Rand.

The most important things I took away from this were:

  • Eating just ten additional cat biscuits daily can lead to massive weight gain over time (turning a 4kg moggie into an 8kg crusher in a matter of years). Even if you are not to blame, its not unusual for cats to nip next door and scavenge a few of the neighbour's cat biscuits (mind you could burn a few calories, depending on how close your neighbours are).
  • Neutering definitely decreases the maintenance energy requirement, modifies appetite and reduces physical activity so dietary modifications should be instituted post-desexing. Ad-lib feeding of dry food is not ideal in neutered cats.
  • Playing with your cat for ten minutes a day produced equivalent weight loss to calorie restriction. Think about it. How much time do you really spend playing with your cat every day?

Other highlights of the day included seeing Dr Karl Kruszelnicki give a presentation. He reckons he reads a one metre thick stack of scientific papers each month, and interestingly also stated his IQ is 110 so though he is above average he needs to work really hard to understand ideas (very reassuring to hear). He also lamented the loss of practical skills in society, commenting that “we’re moving into an age where people’s highest skill is being able to recharge their electronic device”. And this gem on anecdotal evidence: “the plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data”.

AVA President Ben Gardiner and partner with Dr Karl (note the dynamic double handshake!).
During the lunchbreak many vets donated their blood for Q fever research. Most veterinary students are vaccinated against Q fever (caused by Coxiella burnetii) but there is much that remains unknown, particularly how long the vaccine confers protection for. If you’re at the conference, this is meaningful research that may eventually contribute to new guidelines about Q fever vaccination. (And the good news is they have trained human nurses taking blood, not vets, so they know where the veins are in people!!!).

Not scary at all! The Q fever research team were sensitive with my data and gentle on my veins.
Which was nice as I am a pansy when it comes to needles. But the jelly snakes made up for it.
Double boarded specialist Mark Rishniw reviewed diagnosis of congestive heart failure in dogs. He argued that while CHF causes coughing, it is false to think that presence of a heart murmur + cough = CHF. Lots of coughing dogs have murmurs but coughing isn’t an independent predictor of CHF.

Furthermore, measuring response to a frusemide trial should not be based on coughing as frusemide is a potent bronchodilator with activity at the larynx as an antitussive or anti coughing agent. Therefore elimination of a cough with frusemide does NOT prove CHF.


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The little woylie again. Probably the cutest delegate at the conference.
Coming tomorrow: the Australian Veterinary Orchestra is playing its debut concert tonight and I am desperate to find out who in our profession can wield a violin (I'm definitely not one of them).

Tuesday, May 27, 2014

Clinical communication 101 or how many ways can you ask what do you feed your dog?

Would you tell your vet that you feed your dog treats?
The first day of the conference was intense. After a 6.45am start for a breakfast lecture by Charles Kuntz on shoulder instability as a cause of forelimb lameness in dogs, delegates were set loose to choose from one of eight streams. I tried to focus on ethics and client communication yesterday as areas of interest, though I did get waylaid at the Specialised Animal Nutrition stand checking out the new flavours of hay for the guinea pigs (for the cavy lovers out there, Western Timothy & Carrots looks good).

It’s like one big veterinary school camp. Everywhere you go there are former colleagues, people from uni, Faculty, luminaries in the field, students…it’s overstimulation-central. So quite a task to blog daily. But here we go.

AssociateProfessor Jason Coe who holds the Nestle Purina Canada Chair in Communication gave a number of talks on overcoming barriers to communication in the consult room. Communication in the veterinary setting is challenging but it’s a subject that doesn’t always get the attention it deserves.

Good communication is associated with good clinical outcomes, both in human medicine and vet land. But there are plenty of barriers to communication – time pressures, hidden expectations (on behalf of client or vet), misinformation from other sources and so on.

Getting a good history is so important. But in one study, only 61 per cent of vets asked about diet in a consultation (it may have been because the animal presented for something not nutrition related, e.g. a cat fight abscess, but it may have been for a vaccination).

When asked what they fed their pet, 61 per cent of clients only gave one item; 28% identified two foods and only 8 per cent of people mentioned treats. Mostly (75 per cent of the time) vets didn’t probe further. A lot of clients perceived a hidden agenda in the question “what are you feeding your pet” so they shut down. Perhaps they were worried they weren’t feeding the “right” brand, or felt they might be judged. 

We practiced taking nutrition histories from each other and I will admit I wasn’t up front about some of Phil’s treats as I thought the question was really about what do I feel him as a main (and no, he doesn’t get an entrĂ©e and dessert)(doesn't stop him asking though).

Using a different type of question can lead to better answer. Dr Coe suggested something like “can you tell me everything that Phil eats throughout the day, starting from first thing in the morning right through to the end of the day.”

Vets tend to have a fear of asking open-ended questions lest it result in a lengthy answer. In a previous study by Shaw, Adams, Bonnett et al, 50 veterinarians consulted 300 clients. On average they used two open-ended questions and 13 closed questions. Around one quarter of interactions didn’t incorporate a single open-ended question! (An Aussie study by McArthur and Fitzgerald of 24 vets talking to 63 clients found that 15% didn’t contain open ended questions).

But open-ended questions yield good info and they don’t cost too much time. People on average took 13 seconds to respond to an open-ended question versus 5 seconds to respond to a closed question.

Time pressures were seen as one of the biggest barriers to communication, yet taking the time at the beginning of the consult to find out what the client’s concerns are SAVED time.

In one study of 334 vet/client actions, 37% of the time the vet asked for client’s concerns at the outset, took a bit of time to develop a rapport and took a good history.

But taking time saves time. People who just verballed their clients and didn’t listen to their concerns took around 12 minutes in consultation, whereas those who spent time asking about concerns took around 10.5 minutes.


Really looking forward to Dr Coe’s talks on social media later today.

Monday, May 26, 2014

Heading off to the Australian Veterinary Association Conference

This is the sort of passive resistance I face when I go on conference leave. Phil is using "the look" to say "don't go" (in fact, if he could be singing, he would be belting out this tune).

This week I’m at the 2014 Annual Australian Veterinary Association conference, in sunny Perth (though it was raining when the plane landed). The theme of the conference is “What’s Best Practice?” and like the other delegates I’m here to update my knowledge and learn as much as I can.

If you’re interested to hear what vets are learning about, you can check out the program here.

Some readers may remember that last year the Labour Government tabled a $2000 cap on continuing education expenses. One argument was that they wanted to crack down on people swanning around Europe on study tour or living it up at five-star hotels under the guise of education. The cap was scrapped but would have been pretty dangerous putting restrictions on how much continuing education is tax deductible. The AVA lobbied along with other professional organisations to scrap the proposed cap (read more here).

Michael also gets involved, and if you try to move her she gives that "you aren't going to the AVA conference without me" growl.
I can attest that there is no swanning around happening here (even though the conference is on the banks of the Swan River). As soon as we arrived last night it was all about catching-up with colleagues, debriefing about cases (I spoke to an incredible new graduate who talked me through her very heroic first gastric dilatation-volvulus (GDV) surgery that she managed successfully thanks to some lateral thinking), and off to a meeting with other vets who do some teaching and comparing assessment tasks.

Double whammy: after Mike dug out a bunch of items she felt were unnecessary, they BOTH got in and very awkwardly shared the space.
And the first lecture starts at 6.45am Perth time! I just need to get me some hemorrhoid cream to sort out the bags under my eyes.


If you’re on twitter you can find out what’s going on by searching under #AVAConf. 

Meantime my man Hero didn't seem too upset at all. "What, you're going? Can you flip open a can of Fancy Feast and close the door after you?"